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An Interview with Dr. Alveda King: A Message of Peace and Fear

A Message of Peace and Hope in a Time of Chaos and Fear - Dr. Alveda King Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr

One only has to turn on her television set, listen to the radio, peruse social media, or even step outside her front door to be witness to the winds of change sweeping through the nation. Of course, with that wind we have also seen chaos and upheaval grip much of our nation as well. Following the murder of George Floyd in Minneapolis, many have taken the opportunity to speak out against the inequality faced by people of color in our nation. And while this is a wonderful thing to do, others have used this platform to preach change through any means available, including violence. As Christians, what are we supposed to do? How are we supposed to react? How can we help implement change and civil discourse and yet dissuade those using violence?

A Message of Peace and Hope in a Time of Chaos and Fear - Dr. Alveda King Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr

I was blessed to speak with pro-life leader and civil rights activist Dr. Alveda King, niece of the great Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. In a candid interview, we discussed the state of our country as well as what we, as Christians, can do to help our nation move forward.  In the eyes of many, the two of us are vastly different- she is an African American from a well-known family, engaged in activism since she was born. She served in the Georgia House of Representatives and has written numerous books. She is well-known, often giving interviews for news stations and other media. She has faced challenges that I will never face. She has lived a life that I cannot imagine.

A Message of Peace and Hope in a Time of Chaos and Fear - Dr. Alveda King Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr

I, on the other hand, am a white woman who was born after the civil rights movement and grew up never truly knowing what it was like not to love everyone I met. Schools were not segregated, I had friends of every color and nationality, and I was never taught to hate those who are different from me. I am married to a police officer, who was raised the same, and together we have raised our children to also love everyone they meet. I am a homemaker and homeschooling parent. I practice what I preach and volunteer in many ways to help our community thrive and uplift those who need to be uplifted. I am currently the youth minister at my parish and I would venture to say my name is not known outside of my own little world. We have faced intense hate because of my husband’s chosen profession and for our faith, but our experiences are not the same.

In most people eyes, we are more different than alike… but as Dr. King points out, speaking sister to sister, we aren’t different, we are the same and this is the message we all need to hear but that we often fail to hear.

Beginning a Conversation of Peace

Opening our conversation, I asked Dr. King about her feelings regarding George Floyd, the police, the protests, and ultimately the riots. She began, “We are having this conversation in June of 2020. This particular year there is a new election, we will be reelecting our president I believe and some others will be elected; Covid 19 has just rocked America and the world. This is not new… elections are not new, pandemics are not new; and neither is the violence we are experiencing from the death of George Floyd- a man who was killed from a knee on his neck-of course him being African American and the officer being Caucasian.” Expanding on the public’s vastly different reactions to officer involved arrests by white officers versus black officers, she continued, “So we’re down to the argument of skin color, over and over again. That has happened throughout creation since the fall of humanity. People fight about skin color, class, who’s rich, who’s poor, who’s young, who’s old, and all types of things. The answer, the cure, of course, is always- come to the Lord and seek the Lord. And treat each other, regardless of skin color and socioeconomic conditions- treat each other as humans…”

This is where we most often fail. We only see a black man or a white officer. We fail to see that God has created us each in His image and likeness. We fail to see the inherent dignity in one another. Instead, we focus on skin color, wealth, social standing, age, and a myriad of other qualifiers that don’t necessary qualify but instead divide. And we are all guilty of this regardless of our color, status, pocketbook, etc. As humans, because we are sinful, because have experienced the fall, it is difficult for us to see each other through God’s eyes.

Dr. King quoted Acts 17:26, “He made from one the whole human race to dwell on the entire surface of the earth, and He fixed the ordered seasons and the boundaries of their region” several times throughout our conversation. She lamented, “I was taught by my father, Reverend A.D. King, my mother Naomi King who is still living, my granddaddy Daddy King, Mama King his wife, and my uncle Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. that Acts 17:26 “of one blood” means that we have to get along. Martin Luther King Jr said we must learn to live together as brothers and sisters or perish together as fools. We’re not separate races.” She continued, “God created all people…. Our blood is red, our skin color- we can see it. We have to see it or we are colorblind.  It’s a sin to differentiate people by skin color or money or any of the human conditions that we have. The human race has been in the condition of being a fallen group of people in a fallen world. The answer to that is always Jesus Christ. So sin is sin. It is a sin to see our brothers and sisters as other races when we are all of one race- the human race. It is sin to say “my race needs to get along with your race” because there is one race. So, the issue of racism, socially engineered to divide us, is sinful.”

Unfortunately there are those who do not wish to see the world as one race. They hope to keep us separated. How are we to react then to those who wish to keep dividing us? Dr. King, like Martin Luther King Jr and her own father A.D. King, advocates peace. Communication is the key- truly listening to one another and then actively working with one another. But what about those who say that no one is listening and so violence is the only thing that will open the government’s and people’s eyes? When asked about the response of some justifying rioting and other violence she said that people are taking MLK Jr’s quote about “rioting is the language of the unheard” out of context. She states, “Martin Luther King Jr, in that same speech when he was speaking on riots and violence, went on to say that all violence is immoral and doesn’t make sense… we need to be heard, but not with violence. We have to quickly continue to say “we hear you” and now that we hear you, let us communicate in a peaceful, sensible manner. And so we have to NOT be violent and but to work together and learn to live together as brothers and sisters and not perish together as fools- because John 3:16 “for God so love the world…” God’s not colorblind, God’s colors are magnificent!”

Working for Peace

Peace is the key. But how do we teach peace? How do our religious communities take the lead? Dr. King emphatically states, “The leaders of all faiths who acknowledge that there is a God in heaven, need to come together to teach people not to be fearful and tearful and to not panic, but to have faith to pray… to pray instead of panic and to have faith instead of fear. And as leaders do that, (and every person is the leader of him or herself and if he’s not, he’s in serious bondage)- leaders of your homes, your churches, your communities, your work, our governments- all leaders should be encouraging and not stirring up fear.”

Don’t incite fear. Don’t encourage violence. Don’t panic. Instead, pray, have faith, work alongside one another to bring about true change. Encourage one another. Simple but powerful lessons for us all.

As a mother and a youth minister I was particularly interested in what we can do to help raise the next generation to avoid the mistakes of the past and to repair the damage that the past has inflicted. Dr. King spoke eloquently when she said, “Remind these young people of their purpose and their destiny- that they have a voice and their voice comes from God; they have breath that comes from God. And even though George Floyd’s voice had been taken from him, they still have their voices and can raise them for good and unity. We have to teach our young people about God- not to fear, not to panic, but to love and to communicate, to talk… use our breath that God gives us to speak truth.”

This, of course, is not just a message for the white community, but instead for all of us. If we are truly one human race then we must all reach out to one another speaking the words of truth in love… without fear, without panic, but instead with Christ guiding our words and actions.

Conquering Sin Together

As Dr. King and I ended our conversation, I asked her if she could relay one last message to the people reading, a message that she believes God wants all of us to hear, what would it be? She responded with so much love when she said, “The Lord has said in the book of Luke, “The Spirit of the Lord is upon me to set the captives free”- the little babies in the womb are captives, people in jail unjustly are captive, God wants this to be a time of repentance and to understand that we are all of one human race. We need to come back to God and God will help us solve these issues together.”  With God’s help, we can be the instruments to set the captives free.

What has happened to George Floyd is unquestionably wrong and horrifying. For any person to be treated as he was can’t be justified. It has shaken us all to our core. It has been a catalyst for change (and thankfully so!).  But as Dr. King agreed, this isn’t just a police officer problem; this isn’t just a black vs white problem; this isn’t just an American problem… this is a worldwide problem. It is a problem with sin. It is a problem with the condition of our hearts. Conquer sin and we will conquer racism and every other ailment of the heart and soul. But we cannot do this without God and we cannot do this without one another.

If you would like to visit Dr. Alveda King at her website you can find it here. Additionally, she works with Priests for Life as their Executive Director of their Civil Rights for the Unborn outreach program.

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Advocating for the Unborn: An Interview with Dr. Alveda King

alveda kingI was recently blessed to interview Dr. Alveda King, daughter of Rev. A.D. King and niece of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. She is a powerhouse in the pro-life community, working tirelessly to bring the horrors of abortion to light and to bring an end to the ongoing slaughter of millions of babies each year. She works with Priests for Life as the Director of African American Outreach. She is passionate about not only ending abortion but also for carrying on Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.’s dream of equality for all, including the unborn. Following in her father’s and uncle’s footsteps, she bravely speaks from her heart, stands up to the injustices she sees taking place in our world, and refuses to allow anyone to be denied their God-given right to life.

Thank you for taking a moment to read what Dr. King shared with me. Her words are a powerful reminder that there is still so much to do to end this war against the tiniest humans in our communities, against the women who bear them, against the fathers who love them, and against our family units. However, as you’ll see, Dr. King reminds us that with God’s love, forgiveness, and help, we can still overcome this scourge.

The Catholic Church takes a strong, unrelenting stance on the sanctity of all life. You are not Catholic and yet you work with Priests for Life. Why did you choose to work with a Catholic Organization?

I believe God directed me. My uncle, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., during his “I Have a Dream” speech said that he had a dream that Protestants and Catholics, Gentiles and Jews would join together and would sing “free at last!” In that effort to join with every community of faith on the planet, I accepted the invitation from Father Frank Pavone to head up the African American Outreach to educate, inform, and activate the African American community as to the terrible scourge of abortion and how the African American community is targeted, specifically by the abortion industry headed up by Planned Parenthood, to reduce our population through the scourge of abortion.

A very dear friend of mine told me that for her, in the black community, abortion is just considered “taking care of business”. When she had her abortion, no one batted an eye but said she did what “needed to be done”.  What can we do to change this attitude so that the next generation of black families doesn’t continue to fall prey this belief?

slavery When we look at the scourge of abortion, we can go back many, many thousands of years, all the way back to the Old Testament when there was a battle between Sarah and Hagar; Sarah, the wife of Abraham and her son Isaac, the heir to the Promise, and Hagar, the concubine to Abraham, through Sarah’s agreement and arrangement. Sarah said to Abraham, “Take this woman into your bed and have a child so that you can have an heir.” But God had another plan. When human beings intervene in divine intentions there can be outcomes that are not beneficial. And so, with slavery throughout the years, you always had the wife of the master and the slave or servant of the master conspiring against each other, sometimes through jealousy. I know that’s hard to understand, but when you see an African American woman saying, “We just did what we had to do. We were taking care of business”, you look at what that business is. Often black women, slave women, would kill their babies rather than have them born into slavery. Often the slave master’s wife would say, “I’ll help you not have babies. We can abort your babies or we can sterilize you.”

That kind of thought has gone on throughout the ages, but now, here in the 21st century, the spirit of the abolitionist has risen again. Men and women of faith and conscience are saying, “We can help the mother, we can help the father, and save the baby. We can love the family.” And so, when we love a family, a woman no longer has to feel that in retaliation or desperation she must kill her child. She is now learning no matter what her ethnic group happens to be, that she is loved, the baby is loved. The father is learning that his seed does not have to be destroyed.

This is a very resonating message. It is tied into the faith and love of Jesus Christ in His shed blood, “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him will not perish but have everlasting life.” In that message is also love for the family. Women can learn that they are loved and protected and their babies are as well. The father can know that he can guard over his seed rather than see it destroyed.

Margaret Sanger had a very specific agenda in mind when she founded Planned Parenthood. As she said, the goal was in part “the extermination of the negro population”. While Planned Parenthood denies that this is still their goal, do you think they still target the black community?

margaret sanger eugenicsI always wonder, and I say it all the time, “Who hurt Margaret Sanger when she was a girl; what happened to her that was so bad it caused her to want to kill little babies and maim women and disregard the seed of the father?” There are many who leave Planned Parenthood like Abby Johnson and many in a group called the Centurions for example. Centurions are former abortion providers- doctors, nurses, those who have run the abortion mills, and they come out and say, “We don’t want to do this anymore.” By their testimony many have admitted that the goal of Planned Parenthood is to kill and abort babies and to provide harmful contraception and sterilization procedures. It’s not only directed at the African American community through genocide, one of their other large population is college campuses, another is the Latino and Hispanic communities, and certainly to all women.

Interestingly enough, we have discovered that throughout the history of abortion, since 1973 with Roe Vs Wade, that often in the Caucasian areas where most of the clientele was Caucasian, they would sometimes offer opportunities to help those young ladies keep their babies, but with the African American women it was always abortion. We do know that this genocidal eugenics plan has been in place by the testimony of some who used to work for Planned Parenthood but who have now left.

Planned Parenthood’s Jaffe Memo from 1969 gave ideas and suggestions regarding population control. Planned Parenthood claims these were merely a list of suggestions and were never the policies of Planned Parenthood. Do you feel like we see some of these suggestions implemented in today’s society?

There is a global eugenics and genocide plan for those who have the wealth and human power to control the population to make an ideal world, to care for the planet, to care for the environment, and to have a smaller population and in their minds, a more worthy population. That is the goal of eugenic and genocide. Birth control and abortion are two measures that are used in these experiments, but there are many other warfare experiments- fluoridation of water is another one. So there are many plans to control the population and to take over the planet… but this is an age old plan, a human plan. There again, there is a divine plan where the love of God has enough provisions for all human beings.

Your father and your uncle fought so hard for equal rights for all people. Is this fight for unborn babies to be recognized as valuable humans with the same rights as those who are born the same fight as the one your family fought so valiantly? How do you think they would feel about this epidemic in our nation?

king brothersI know that if they were here today they would agree with me when I say that a woman has the right to choose what she does with her body, but the baby is not her body. Where’s the lawyer for the baby? It is possible to get justice, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness in a family without killing our children. Mother Teresa had some of the strongest and firmest testimony on those accounts. We all know that Mother Teresa dedicated her adult life to caring for the least of these and she shows us we don’t have to kill people to gain our own inheritance.

What can we do, especially within the black community, to promote the pro-life agenda and take a stand like Martin Luther King did for civil rights, when we have the Margaret Sangers of the world working in direct opposition to us?

First, I always pray for the Margaret Sangers of the world- their spirits, their hearts, and their lives must have been wounded terribly to cause them to make these terrible and lasting decisions. There’s a more lasting opportunity, through Christ and His love for us, to reach out and help others. I forgive Margaret Sanger, I forgive the doctor who did my first abortion and I forgive Planned Parenthood. Certainly I stand against the heinous agendas, those agendas are wrong, they can and must be exposed, but in working in prayer and in love, the bible says that when we pray we must forgive as our Heavenly Father forgives us. So as we forgive we move forward with the understanding that abortion kills a baby, harms a mother, robs a father of a birthright, and so hurts societies and hurts communities but we ask God to guide us out of this heinous scourge into Truth.

As Christians it is our duty to protect all life, from the moment of conception to natural death, do you have any suggestions that can help us uphold God’s laws in terms of upholding the sanctity of life?

We have an election year in November of this year and next year. As we move forward we must vote as Godly, Christian people, and if we will agree to do that we will find that we can elect men and women of good character. If we are able to do that we certainly see that we can begin to contribute by our prayers, our votes, our actions, and our support of the Bible… all those things as Christians that we have to do.

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If you would like to read more from Dr. Alveda King you can follow her on her blog at Priests for Life.

Dr. King hoped this interview would be published before Election Day so she could encourage us to vote for life. She directed me to the following quote by Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. on May 17, 1957-

“Give us the ballot and we will no longer have to worry the federal government about our basic rights. Give us the ballot and we will no longer plead to the federal government for passage of an anti-lynching law; we will by the power of our vote write the law on the statute books of the southern states and bring an end to the dastardly acts of the hooded perpetrators of violence. Give us the ballot and we will transform the salient misdeeds of blood-thirsty mobs into calculated good deeds of orderly citizens. Give us the ballot and we will fill our legislative halls with men of good will, and send to the sacred halls of Congressmen who will not sign a Southern Manifesto, because of their devotion to the manifesto of justice. Give us the ballot and we will place judges on the benches of the South who will “do justly and love mercy,” and we will place at the head of the southern states governors who have felt not only the tang of the human, but the glow of the divine. Give us the ballot and we will quietly and nonviolently, without rancor or bitterness, implement the Supreme Court’s decision of May 17, 1954.”

Please, take your hard-earned ballot and vote for life.